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Arenig Fach From Llyn Celyn

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This is one of the wildest and pathless terrains in Snowdonia. Even the notorious Rhinogydd have paths.

Here you’ll find very few traces of previous footsteps. It’s well worth getting a few walks in over the Arenig if you like your walks quiet and remote, even if you’re never that far from the road.

 

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Height Gained 579mDistance 13kmTime 3 hrs 33 minDownload Route

Distance, Ascent and Time 13km, 600m and 5 hours

OS Map Required Explorer 017 & Explorer 018BMC MapLandranger 115

Difficulties Pathless

Start / End  Llyn Celyn

Facilities None

Public Transport None

The route starts at one of many car parks at the northern end of Llyn Celyn. We parked near the memorial chapel to the flooded village, more information on this page. Continue along the main road until you reach the drive for Cae Gwernog, a good 10min walk if you park where we did.

Turn left uphill a couple of hundred metres after passing the farm  after along a faint track by the stream. If you reach Gwern-Adda then you’ve gone too far. This section does need a bit of careful route finding in order to first find this turn off point (SH841 417) and then to reach the stile to open moorland.

Continue in an easterly direction along moorland following a faint path if you’re lucky. It’s worth aiming for Llyn Arenig Fach and then uphill, or you can aim directly for the wide ridge that sweeps up the western side of the hill. Whichever way you arrive there, you’ll find there’s a fence and a sketchy path that you can follow almost to the summit, but it vanishes.  Then you’ll either need to veer left , or alternatively follow the fence, and you’ll soon arrive at the large cairn (Carnedd y Bachgen) on the summit. There’s a decent shelter to be had unless there’s an easterly blowing, as typically there was today.

So despite the open views across the Migneint towards Eryri, we couldn’t enjoy them for long on a bitter February morning and had to get moving.

If you’re bagging, then you’re best returning whence you came. If you’re a little more sadistic, then you can descend the blunt west ridge, with no obviously easy way down, but a sketchy path takes you down a steep but reasonably short scree section towards Carnedd y Gors-gam. The image to the right gives you an idea of how steep this section is. You could also descend the fence from the summit, but that’s also steep.

You’re now on the notorious Migneint. It was largely frozen when we ventured there, but not deeply enough. You’d still break through the icy crust on occasion. While it has a reputation, it’s merely very wet as opposed to perilously boggy. Crossing the Moelwynion has more sections that make me think I’m going to lose footwear to the mire. Navigation is pretty simple as you’ve got a fence all the way as far as the summit of Carnedd y Filiast

The intention of this walk was to continue across to Carnedd y Filiast, but an injured ankle (agonizing recurrance of a recent sprain) meant that the walk had to be cut short and a painful hobble to the car along the sketchy bridleway was needed. There are few obstacles on the path, but it is sketchy and you need to ensure that you don’t miss the path along the Nant-goch that descends to Craignant. From there, it’s a matter of following the lane back to Llyn Celyn.

You’d be better off ascending Arenig Fach as an up/down, and ascending Carnedd y Filiast via some of the more interesting, though still not spectacular, south eastern cymoedd. Definately an area to visit in the winter if you want to get the most out if it. There’s a wonderful route across the migneint in the Classic Walks book (Wilson/Gilbert) that’s arguably a better way to cross this terrain by starting off from the B4407 and just finding your way across the moorland by picking off the small number of features. Drasdo (the writer of the route) states that the Migneint isn’t as boggy as it’s made out to be, but that may soon change! They were busy refilling the drainage ditches in order to make it boggier when we were here.

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Author: daveroberts

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2 Comments

  1. I wanted to do this route yesterday (04/06/2012) but on arrival at the drive to Cae Gweronog (SH844 418) I was met by 3 signs stating it was private and no public footpath,although a route with public access is clearly shown on my OS Explorer map OL18.
    I was on my own and not keen to push the point with the farmer so i walked back down the road past the car park with toilets and picnic area so i could access the free to roam land using the footpath at SH842 402,I used walls and fences to make my way through some boggy patches and heather scrub to the top of Arenig Fach.
    Perhaps not the nicest route but i was purely hill bagging,but the views from the top certainly made it worthwhile.
    I am just about to contact the council to find out if the farmer has the right to do this,or find out who I need to talk to about this matter

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    I recall some signs there, but can’t find any pics. I turned right along the “other” right of way but now you mention it I’m sure there was a sign stating no footpath where there’s clearly a right of way to the south of the farm. I didn’t think anything of that as I was going the other way and thought it was there to guide people onto the path I wanted to follow not realising there should have been a path there.

    You could try contacting the right of way team at Gwynedd Council – http://www.gwynedd.gov.uk/gwy_doc.asp?cat=6097&doc=21592&Language=1&p=1&c=1 – You need the Meirionnydd team.

    Or try the Ramblers.

    You sound like you had a bit of an adventure anyway, I don’t think there’s an easy way to achieve this hill.

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