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Pete's Eats - The well known walker's and climber's caff in Llanberis.

 

Weather Links

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MWIS. Weather forecast for Snowdonia.

Met Office. 5 day mountain forecast.

Snowdonia Snowline - Daily record of the Carneddau Snowline.

Metcheck weather - Longer range forecasts.

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Accuweather

Snowdon Weather Station Project. Weather data and Webcams of Elidir Fawr and Moel Eilio.

 

Public Transport

Snowdon Sherpa Bus Timetables

Welsh Highland Railway.

Travelline Wales.

theTrainline - Timetables and online booking

 

Other Links

The Welsh 3000s - website just about the 14 peaks.

The BMC - British Mountaineering Council.

The Mountain Bothy Association - yes, there are bothies in Eryri...

TAC - The Angry Corrie Scottish hillwalking fanzine, read it free.

Eryri - Snowdonia National Park.

Oggy Cam . Ogwen Mountain Rescue and a Ogwen Valley webcam.

BBC North West Wales.

Graham's Wales Photos. Loads of excellent pics on Eryri in here.

North Wales Photographs Beautiful photos of North Wales by Simon Kitchin.

Cambrian Mountains National Park A 'Should-Be' fourth welsh national park.

Snowdonia Society Charity which looks after the interests onf the National Park.

eryriway.org.uk Sister site to walkeryri, emphasising long distance trails.

 

Carneddau via Cwm Caseg

Carneddau in SnowCarneddau in Snow

 

Carneddau in SnowCarneddau in Snow

Distance and Ascent

18.5km, 1100m ascent. OS Map Required

OS Explorer 17 Landranger 150

Time

8 hours Difficulties

Route finding off path. River Crossing

Start Location

Gerlan / Bethesda

End Location As start.
Grading Strenuous. Facilities Shops, pubs etc in Bethesda.
Public Transport Buses from Bangor, Sherpa from Capel Curig and Caernarfon. GPS Files
Download GPX file
Route Profile

Carneddau in SnowThere are four valleys to the west of the Carneddau. The northernmost and southernmost aren’t named on the OS maps, but the two in the middle are much larger. Cwm Llafar cuts deep in between the two highest peaks, ending in the steep back wall known as yr Ysgolion Duon (Black Ladders). Strangely, it’s only the other cwm – Cwm Caseg that contains a lake. From this description, “the long valley with the lake above Bethesda” I worked out that my late father had been up here in the sixties. All he can recall is finding a top hat that was completely flat in the middle of the path.

This is an unusual cwm, even disregarding the squashed millinery. There are remains of a large settlement at over 400m, meaning the area must have been populated and farmed, like much of the Carneddau in the past. There’s little here to sustain man now except for a few sheep.  It’s simiar to Cwm Llafar, in that it’s long with a meandering stream. It continues uphill much further though, twisting around Yr Elen before terminating in a hanging valley and lake at Ffynnon Caseg. Today’s walk didn’t visit this highest point of the cwm, from where the only option is Yr Elen’s NE ridge or retreat but in the snow to follow a grassy ridge (Braich y Llyngwn, though possibly yet another OS typo and Llyngwm being the correct name – translated as ridge of the valley of the lake, which makes sense).

The walk starts in Gerlan, ideally around SH629 667 which you can reach from most of the Carneddau in Snowstreets that branch off the A5. Finding “Glanrafon” is the hardest navigation of the day. Follow this uphill past some houses before soon passing through a gate and onto farmland. The track forks here but take the right fork and follow for a few hundred metres. The driveable track continues right  into a farm at SH636 668, and paths split off left and ahead. Follow the path  directly ahead, and a path continues around a couple of small enclosed fields towards a steep looking gully ahead.

There’s an easy path up this gully, giving your legs a bit of workout before the easier section ahead. The top of this section will leave you above Cwm Caseg with the track a short distance below. Contour the easy grassy hillside to the gate to the east and the obvious track ahead. 
As you continue along this initially good track, you soon get swallowed up in the vast cwm. There’s a little quarry on the way, and an ancient settlement which you might find yourself walking through if you miss the right hand fork in the path. The only thing that’s obvious in the settlement is the more modern sheepfold, the rest is barely discernible as the dilapidated remains of walls. Past the sheepfold, the path becomes a little boggy and rough and you need to pick your way and find the driest route until the cwm narrows and you get nearer Afon Caseg at around SH668 665.

Carneddau in Snow You’ll need to pick your way across carefully if the river’s in spate, but if you find that it’s a little deep you can travel a little upstream and you’ll find the river soon narrows. Of course, if you’re not afraid of getting your feet a little wet, you’ll find somewhere easily! The best thing about Braich Maesgwn is the views back towards Clowgyn y Heliwr, and the fact that a bearing due south will take you up safely in mist. Other than that, it’s a total slog.

Carneddau in SnowGratefully, you reach the skyline and the ridge flattens out. Carnedd Dafydd and Cwm Llafar now dominate the view. You try not to look at the steep scree slope up to Yr Elen. Even worse when that’s partly covered alternately in frozen snow and slushy snow. Zig zagging steeply, this is a testing ascent in snow. It’s soon over. The flat summit of Yr Elen unexpected. The ridge across to Llewelyn looking most welcoming and tiredness in limbs suddenly gone.

A glance down shows us that Ffynnon Caseg is partly frozen, receiving little sunlight in the shadow of Carnedd Llewelyn. The ridge across is an easy ramble in summer, and nothing tricky under snow. There’s a steep pull up to Llewelyn, and once at its top you’ll probably need a compass bearing to find the summit in poor visibility. In snow you can take the chance and follow the footsteps, in the hope that they know where they’re going! Today, they were.

Further fortune is that the owners were long gone, as the shelter on Llewelyn is often full. A group arrived not long after, so timing had been good. Leaving the summit, you’ll need to make sure of your direction with a bearing, but again there were a few footsteps to follow. These weren’t as reliable as the ones we’d followed earlier, and meandered across the slope. It didn’t help that the snow had drifted here, so the descent to Foel Grach was largely in knee deep snow.

Past the shelter, the snow dripping from it’s stones, we contoured around Garnedd Uchaf to descend the Aryg Ridge. This is a normally easy walk, but deep snow drifts hiding either knee twisting holes between boulders, or knee deep bog made it a little more interesting. It’s not the most obvious path in places either, so take care. When the path starts veering to the north, you’ll need to keep an eye out for a faint path to Gyrn Wigau. This is the final point of the ridge, and is probably a Nuttall like these places often are.

Continuing on the faint path, takes you eventually to the path and sheepfold at SH643 670. Cross the wall at the stile, and cross the short grass that’s easy on the feet at this time of day towards SH639 666 and the stile at the top of the gully you climbed at the start of the walk and retrace your steps to the village.

 

General Links

Snowdonia attractions Several great reviews about some of Snowdonia's better known attractions. 

English-welsh dictionary Links and resources to help you translate that welsh word into English.

Walking shoes - Another site that I found that sells walking shoes online.

Merrell Walking Shoes from fitnessfootwear.com, decent little site i found for Merrell walking shoes.

Whalley Warm and Dry - paramo stockists, great service and range.

V-G Walking and Backpacking. Inspirational website detailing one to three (and more) day walks around the UK.

Trekking Britain. Route descriptions & experience as opposed to guide book.

OutdoorsMagic - Forum based website, lots of information on here.

Phil George - Mountain Leader Training in Llanberis.

Peak and Fell Walking - A photographic guide to walking in Britain's National Parks.

Wild Tramp.co.uk - New site on walking in the UK. Looks promising.

 

Digital Mapping

Tracklogs IMHO the best mapping for PC.

MemoryMap Still good, but route handling clumsier.

Viewranger mapping for smartphones.

Fugawi and Anquet are also popular.

Quo The new kid on the block.

Open Street Map - Open source mapping as featured on this site.

Multimap - Free online mapping.

Get a Map - Free online mapping from the OS

Access Land in Wales - online mapping from CCW.

 

DISCLAIMER ANY ADVICE FOLLOWED ON THESE PAGES ARE AT THE READER'S OWN RISK. I WILL NOT BE RESPONSIBLE FOR OTHER PEOPLE'S STUPIDITY OR INEXPERIENCE. IF YOU WANT TO WALK THE HILLS GO ON A COURSE, ASK AN EXPERIENCED FRIEND OR JOIN A CLUB. DONT EXPECT TO READ UP ON THE INTERNET AND BECOME AN EXPERT. I HAVE BEEN UP IN THESE HILLS FOR MANY YEARS, THATS HOW YOU GAIN EXPERIENCE...Phew! Rant over.

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